Incarnation or Therian form?

[chaosruler10]

So me and Silver were arguing to see which form is better. He thinks Therian form is awesome while I think its okay at best. What you think? I personally think Incarnation is better for the various reasons. While Therian has its boosted special attack, it lost prankster and some of its speed. The only Therian form that i see got the benefit is Tornadus because of regenerator and the all mighty roost. Landorus well he's alright.

[Silver]

Yes, while they lost their prankster ability, with them not having the best defense to begin with and not many moves they got benefited from prankster since they can generally outspeed a lot of different pokemon prankster was a useless ability for them to have.

Here are my reasons why Therian Thundurus is better.
1. Thundurus it may have lost 10 in the speed stat but they gained 20 in their Sp.Atk BST.
2. It's already pretty fast so it's not like it lost a bunch of speed, it can generally outspeed most things.


Why Therian Form Tornadus is better.
1. It can now have a better physical with it getting bulk up, sure it may have lost some atk. but now it can get a stat boosting move for its attack
2. It has gained 10 in its BST in speed, 10 BST in Sp.def, 10 in its BST for Def,
3. It may have lost 10 BST in both attack stats, he is now able to take more hits and be faster to pull off a sweep easier.

Why Therian Landorus is better.
1. It's pretty much the physical thundurus, he may have lost speed but his atk BST is much better and can now take down walls more easily.
2. In this form he is the slowest of the three, but give him a choice scarf, which I predict will be very popular combination he, again can decimate teams fairly easily.

Also, I've used all of these pokemon in theriand and incarnate forms over 10 times so I'm not blindly making these assumptions. And those are my reasons to why I think Therian form is better. I may add more reasons as I figure them out as I use them/ battle against them.

[chaosruler10]

Only Tornadus gets the benefit in being in that form. Landorus is meh thanks to that speed and Thundurus well he's okay at best.

Thundurus:
Anyone with speed 102 or higher is gonna KO if they have enough attack
Losing prankster means that it can't cripple fast opponents
Its defenses are meh

Thundurus is good for a hit and run, but his incarnation is a whole lot better. Pit them against each other and Incarnation would win.

[M]

Tornadus:
With Tornadus' new Therian form, it's gained a bit of bulk and speed, while losing attack power. Now, Tornadus already wasn't that bulky, with it's typing not being that great anyways. Being a pure flying type sounds good an all, but all it really does it makes those pesty fighting moves become 2x resisted.

With the extra bulk from the Therian form, it's not doing it any favor of trying to keep it alive that well. It can work, just not well. Regenerator is seen to be a lot more beneficial to it, but it won't last long out in the field by itself regardless.

In my opinion, I prefer the Incarnate form for Tornadus. It just doesn't need the extra defense and speed.


Thundurus:
101 Speed Base in its Therian form outspeeds a good chuck of the metagame. Of course there are scarfers and higher speed Pokes out there, but the population for that's not high, and some of them can't really do much against Thundurus. Especially not with the risk of switching them in on a Thunderbolt/Thunder/Dark Pulse/Psychic coming at them with that high special attack.

Losing prankster has no detrimental effects on this genie, as it never really benefited from it anyways. Sure, a priority Nasty Plot seems good an all, but if you don't even outspeed the opponent's Pokemon, it doesn't matter if you go first with Nasty Plot. Thundurus never needed Prankster at all. It has no need to cripple incoming Pokemon because that's not its job. It's not designed to cripple, it's designed to attack. And Volt Absorb can help heal it from rocks if it switches in on an incoming thunderbolt or thunder wave.

Thundurus' Therian form wins my vote out of the two.

Landorus
3 words, Scarfed Therian Landorus. It's a pseudo Rampardos with better bulk and resistence, that's all. It's not losing out on much with the lack of 10 base speed.

Conclusion:

Tornadous - Incarnate
Thundurus - Therian
Landorus - Therian

[NinjaDeathStrike]

Tornadus' new form finally lets him step out of Thundrus' shadow. I think a bulky set could work pretty well with him.

The other two seem....fine I guess. It's really just a matter of preference and what you need them to do on the team. Both forms will have their usues.

[Shark]

This post is spam.

I haven't even looked at them yet... I was just told to post here.


Also Damnit Silver, stop hacking my account.